After the great early success of A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, a really nice show that I hope stays that way even if they've now more directly connected its characters to the central ASOIAF lore (the Targaryens), I finally decided to bite the bullet and do a Game of Thrones rewatch. I haven't done a full one since right before that final season. Not surprising, since that last season was so universally shamed (very much so by me as well) that I never felt inspired to rewatch it, knowing just how badly the stories came together. Didn't stop me from watching House of the Dragon and enjoying parts of it (though Seaseon 2 was hilariously slow from an actual moving the plot perspective). Didn't stop me from jumping into Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. But Game of Thrones was something I thought I had fully left behind.
And then I decided to rewatch it. I know how badly it ends. I've long said that if I ever rewatch it, I would stop after Season 6, when I wish the show kind of did end. To remind, that season ends with Cersei blowing up the Sept & most of King's Landing, effectively making her queen, Jon is crowned King of the North with Sansa & Arya by his side, and Dany finally starts sailing across teh Narrow Sea, with all three dragons, the Dothraki, the Unsullied and the houses Tyrell and Martell to boot. That should've set-up an epic end - and I'm sure GRMM's actual way to end it would be great, but of course the show fumbled that fully.
Anyway, I'm now at the tail end of Season 4, and I'm starting to already think do I watch Season 7 and 8 when the time comes. I probably just sack up and do it (very notably, there's not many episodes in those seasons!), but watching this again, knowing how it ends, I definitely have some newfound thoughts on the whole thing.
= Firstly, while we can all hate Season 8, and many hate Season 7, we should all remain a bit objective in saying at its early peak GoT was just incredible. It is still incredible television told at a scale rarely done before with generally great success.
= It's hilarious though how small the budget clearly was in the old days - Season 1 is the most stark (no pun intended) example, where King's Landing wasn't yet in Dubrovnik, the Wall was just Castle Black, and they had to essentially cutway from any real fight scene. Hell, Dany's tiny dragons in the finale were seen as some incredible CGI magic. Even in Season 2 they couldn't really show much of the Blackwater Bay battle for the same reason. What I guess needs to be said is the show wasn't any worse off.
= Knowing how badly the story ends for many "honorable" characters cuts no easier this time even knowing their fate, but what's more clear this time around is how badly Robb Stark fumbled everything. Many people noted how dumb Nedd was throughout Season 1, how many outs he had to avoid his fate, but the same is so true of Robb - from how often he just ignores Roose Bolton's ironically generally sound advice, to his inability to realize he could probably just get away with Talisa being a mistress. He really was as dumb as his Dad, which ironically makes The Red Wedding hurt less this time.
= While the Red Wedding wasn't as depressing (it was never going to be as shocking), Joffrey dying was just as fun this time. It is amazing how everyone alive knew he was just a piece of shit but had to just bow down to him - gratefully something that we don't have to face in real life in America.....
= The casting and performances are amazing. It's truly incredible how many unknown actors Game of Thrones was able to unearth. It's sad many have been largely typecast in their roles ever since, but truly from the Stark kids, to Joffrey (just brilliant at playing a devil), to Dany (yes, I will continue to stan that Emilia Clarke is very good, moreso in those early seasons), to so many other unknowns, they just knocked it out of the park in those early seasons. Case in point, in Season 4 where we see Pedro Pascal show up as Oberyn. I had to look up, but indeed this was before Narcos (not sure if he was already cast in Narcos...). Other than The Wire, I don't know if any show with nearly this large an ensemble ever did a better job.
= For one of teh few criticisms I have with the early seasons, I think Jaime's turn to honorable was way too quick. He was still very much an aggressive dick when in captivity in Season 1-2. I geuss it was getting his arm chopped off, and the moment he goes back to save Brienne from the Bear that is his turning point, but that was way too quick. This is the same criticism of course we would levy way later in the way they turned Dany, but tehre were signs of unearned change.
= Speaking of Dany, many people point to various decisions in these early seasons that show this secret monster (e.g. locking Xoro and her handmaiden in teh vault, her crucifying the Mereen masters) but truly all of these things make relative sense in the show. None of this justifies the seconds-quick turn to her burning King's Landing. None of these things was any crazier than Robb chopping the head of Lord Karstark, or Cersei blowing up the crypt, or a score of other things. Don't let people gaslight you into saying the groundwork for Dany being a monster, or "Mad" was being laid well.
= There are a few storylines that I hated the first time and continue to hate with a passion - particularly Ramsay Bolton torturing Theon. But also early Theon taking over Winterfell as well. Basically everything involving the North post Robb Stark getting killed is just a mess, and this is before I have to watch Sansa get raped and what-not. I know in the back of my head the Battle of the Bastards is some sort of comeuppance, but still Ramsay is just too cartoonishly evil (even in a show that had Joffrey).
= That said, there is a storyline I do like more this time, and that is John's adventures North of the Wall. It's odd, even if ultimately the white walker story ends stupidly with the Night King just getting beaten in a traditional way, everything going on North of the Wall works fairly well, from people ignoring the threat, to all the Craster / Mance / Wildlings stuff. I'm not really sure why it's playing better this time around when I found the North of the Wall stuff a slog the first time around (and I'm not even that big a Jon Snow fan) but yeah, I would go for a GoT spinoff just focusing on the comings and goings of the Night's Watch.
= We needed more small council scenes - from Nedd making a fool of himself, to everything involving Tyrion during his run as Hand, to Oberyn in Season 4, every Small Council scene is amazing. The politicking of Game of Thrones was one of the underrated apex points early on, an area that got way less import and air time after Tywin died and Tyrion escaped, but my God did I enjoy every one of those. I know I'm a few episodes away from this being a focus of the show, but I've enjoyed every moment of it so far.
= This is a random one, but at this point I have no idea where Dany's dothraki that go across the sea come from. It's clear after Khal Drogo dies that most of them leave her. She never makes any concerted effort to find others, seemingly content to go on with the Unsullied and Second sons. I assume I'm forgetting something in Season 5 or 6 that shows where the Dothraki return to her side, but it's just weird knowing how clear a role they play in teh Loot Train attack, and how Danaerys is still referred to so often as Khaleesi that there's like none of them around.
= The one storyline that I think works exactly the same this time as it did on teh first watch, in a negative way, is everything to do with Stannis. Now, I realize I'm writing this before he slightly redeems himself by actually caring about the white walker threat (before he, you know, burns his daughter alive and loses to Ramsay...) but still he's just so damn boring. What's odd is that I remember at the time book readers were saying how book Stannis is far more interesting, but show Stannis was written in a way that boring-ness was the point (in that he couldn't get any loyal following compared to Renly). All in all, that storyline is a mess, and just a waste of Stephen Dillane's immense talents.
= On the other side, the one storyline that works as well on the positive side this time around is Arya's pre-Essos days, particularly her sparring with Tywin at Hardhome and her time with the Hound. I know the story is abut to take some boring turn in Essos before some intersting stuff after, but man was that such a well written, pointed character in Seasons 1-4. Her interactions with Tywin and her winning his affection (to some degree) was excellent. Same with her rapport with the Hound; just great stuff.
= My last random point before a closing thought/hypothesis - on rewatch, my new worst character (in terms of emotions, not at all performance) is Cersei. Like I get we are supposed to feel some level of pity because she was used as a pawn with Robert and later Loras, but fuck all that. She's just the worst. I get "she loves her kids" but everyone in the realm knew Joffrey was just pure evil (including Jaime and Tywin) but she didn't accept that. I guess we're supposed to appreciate some maternal instinct or something, but eff that, she just sucked. Lena Headey played it great, but tehre's no character who I think less of on this rewatch than her - other than maybe Stupid Robb Stark
To conclude, early Game of Thrones remains excellent. I've seen a lot of talk about how good Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is, and it is great, but let's be truthful - peak Thrones was better. Few things are better than peak thrones, even if it was a bit inconsistent at its peak. There's good reason why it was such a cultural touchstone, and that brings me back to my final takeaway - I think we're being too hard on Benioff & Weiss.
Here's the main aspect of that - I 100% believe that they assumed when they started the show in 2011 that GRRM would finish the damn books by the time they ended the show. Hell, the final book came out during the run of the show. Now, we can criticize them for just throwing their hands up at the end and doing these abridged Seasons 7-8, which they absolutely should not have done, but this idea that they were nothing without GRRM's material is only half true, because it was never supposed to be them doing the show without his material. I don't know if there's any parallel in TV or even movie history where the creator was expected to adapt content for part of it and then shift seamlessly into creating his own.
Granted, I 100% believe the ending was what GRRM told them it would be: Dany turning mad and lighting fire to King's Landing, Cersei and Jaime dying together, Jon being Aegon VI Targaryen, and ultimately even Bran of all people being on the Iron Throne. And yes, D&D did nothing to actually earn that ending, but they were never supposed to. We can critique them for Season 7-8, and more largely Season 5-8 (given that's when the show outpaced the books), but that was never the deal. They were brought in to adapt books and that they did brilliantly. Even the stories they cast aside (Jayne Westerling, Lady Stoneheart) were reasonable. Get off their backs, their job of adapting GRRM's source material was done excellently.
As to the opening question on this, I'll watch Season 7-8 because I'm pot committed at this point. I know I'll hate Season 8. I'll probably think less of Season 7 than I did at the time. I know GoT ends badly, but much like HIMYM, which I did rewatch through its glory days before, that shouldn't overlook how magical this was at its peak. It was one of the last true cultural touchstone shows, and for great reason. It was that good, and upon rewatch it still is in most ways. God bless the fact this show existed, even if we can rightly crucify its last few seasons. But I think we shouldn't just assume the terrible ending says anything about how good, how enthralling, how well acted GoT was at its peak.